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The Real Problems in Compositional Studies


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The essays of Patrica Bizzell make much of the struggle between Foundationalism and Anti Foundationalism in compositional studies. Their ultimate goals are very similar.  It is their distinct approach to reaching those goals that causes the conflict.  The foundationalists, often are represented as the Academy and it orthodox supporters, main concern is that students be taught reproduce standard Academic discourse. Bizzell confirms that by putting it plainly “We know this in composition studies because we are continually being urged, by administrators. Colleagues, parents and students to teach academic discourse (bizzell 203)” Referring specifically to Academic writing Bartholomae, an ardent foundationalist, also states “I want to argue that academic writing is the real work of the academy (Bartholomae 63)” On the other hand the Anit-Foundationalists, Peter Elbow and others, want to empower the student to bring their own voices into academic discourse.  While speaking of his goals for his first year students Elbow states that his students should get personal satisfaction from their writing while also being able to state confidently that they feel as if they are an academic. (Elbow BAW 72)  In general anit-foundationalist seek to protect the student from indoctrination in to the academy by questioning the educational authority of foundationalism (Bizzell 202) because they believe that, as Bizzell states “an absolute standard for the judgment of truth can never be found (Bizzell 204).” Each side believes that their approach will allow students to effectively participate in Academic discourse.  The resolution of the struggle between Foundationalism and Anti Foundationalism is highly important.  It may determine the course taken to reach one of the most the most fundamental functions of the Academy.


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There are difficulties with the Anti-foundational approach.  Bartholomae tells us that in “Academic Writing” that it is not possible to write freely with an uninfluenced voice that “Students write in a space that defined by all the writing that has preceded them (Bartholomae 64)”.  Bartholomae also says that it should be “our goal to make a writer aware of the forces at play in the production of knowledge (Bartholomae 66)” not protect him or her from those forces. He also states students should master academic writing “ before learning its critique and imaging it undoing (Bartholomae 70).”  When the anti-foundationalist do establish their agenda there are still problems because as Bizzell paraphrases Stanley Fish “anti-foundationalism slides back into foundationalism.  The tendency, in other words, is to hope that becoming aware of the personal, social, and historical circumstances that constitute our beliefs, we can achieve a critical distance on them and change our beliefs if we choose. In encouraging this hope, anti-foundationalism is setting up its method in place of the absolute standards of judgment it debunks.(Bizzell 205)”  So even if the anti-foundational approach is at all possible as Bartholomae doubts it is likely to be flawed as Fish points out.  This is not to say that foundationalism is without its flaws. 

(***Original idea for above  *** Without knowing how to reproduce standard academic discourse a student’s voice will never be heard.  Their work will be discarded out of hand to being to personal or not adhering to policy.  Even when such a student produces exceptional work defects in their writing not only keep them communicating clearly but they are unlikely to be rewarded for that work.  In the long term that will discourage the student. )

Traditionally, as Bartholomae states, foundationalists have been primarily concerned with teaching students to master  “the figures and forms, learn to produce an elegant, convincing, even professional quality narrative (Bartholomae 70).”  Bizzell states however “This kind of writing instruction treated all differences between students simply as a mater of innate and individual abilities. The students’ thought processes and their various social circumstances were ignored (Bizzell 106).”  This of course did not recognize students differing abilities to deal with academic discourse. Which in effect made the Freshman English class a culling tool of the Academy.  While historically that has been the seemingly preferred policy of the Academy, an overwhelming influx of students unable to reproduce standard written English made this approach problematic (Bizzell 107).  This change in students married with a change in the nature of the profession of the composition faculty lead to a reexamining of composition studies and the definition of “Good Writing”(Bizzell 108) Bizzell further states, in order to be more effective teachers of composition for the new type of students the university was obliged to admit teachers would have to better understand “the students’ writing processes; and the relationship between the academic discourse community and the student’s discourse communities.(Bizzell 108)” So the traditional foundationalist approach to teaching composition can no longer work in the modern university regardless of the wishes of the Academy. 


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(Original idea for the above section ***Without being able to express his or her own voice the student cannot effectively persuade or express his or her readers.  He or she will not be able to effectively express the standard point of view or contrary points of view that are so essential to healthy discourse communities.  That lack of freedom of expression may also curtail the student from expressing any contrary point of view at all.)

 Bizzell nearly has the solution in her essay “Foundationalism and Anti-Foundationalism” Which is to teach standard discourse and then teach student to rhetorically analyze that discourse. (Bizzell 218)  However I would like to submit that these skills must be taught concurrently as to not give one primacy over the other. Bizzell emphasizes the necessity of political activity for the faculty as to maximize opportunities for students who are faced with the prospect of rejecting their own home discourse community or failing in the academic community. (Bizzell 218) I cannot disagree with her point but I believe part of that faculty activism should be to ensure that as an institution the academy constantly reviews and adapts it’s standards, which are the basis of Academic discourse.  To do less would be dangerous, as non-current standards could serve as a further restriction of the students’ ability to participate in academic discourse. 

 

 

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mjt42 on paragraph -1:

i have to say wow, cause every point you make, you support, and as a former debater I love that!

September 15, 2008 2:57 pm
mjt42 on whole page :

your paper is very well structured very well thought, and it kept me going i have no way to construct it cause it is already so well constructed.

September 15, 2008 3:06 pm
Chelsea on whole page :

Your paper is very structured, which is good, but I felt an absence of “you”. Your paper consisted a lot of Elbow said… and Bartholomae said…. but you should include after a few facts what you think about what they said. This will help the reader connect to you more and make your paper more of an interesting read. Along with that make sure that “you” are not just in one piece of the paper. For example, if you look at your last paragraph vs. the rest of your paper you will notice that the last paragraph is the only place where you use the word “I” try to use this throughout your paper and not just in one spot.

September 17, 2008 11:28 am
Nicole on paragraph -1:

I like how you state what the authors you quoted have to say about the subject before giving your own opinion on their ideas.

September 17, 2008 12:51 pm
Nicole on paragraph 4:

This last sentence actually sounds like a transition into your next paragraph.

September 17, 2008 12:52 pm
Nicole on whole page :

I also like the structure you have, with defining each of the theories and then stating your opinion. I also like when you cite your paraphrases and not just the direct quotes, to make sure the reader knows where your information is coming from.

September 17, 2008 12:53 pm
Nicole on whole page :

This last sentence seems more like an transition into your next paragraph.

September 17, 2008 1:40 pm
Nicole :

This comment was supposed to go under paragraph four… I don’t know why it didn’t.

September 17, 2008 1:41 pm
Audra D. on whole page :

Your paper is really well written and I like how you wove the quotes into your writing. But sometimes I felt like the amount of quotes you used was a little overwhelming. Besides that it was a really good paper. Well done!

- Audra D.

September 17, 2008 2:12 pm
Rachel Hillmer on paragraph 3:

Good use of textual support and references to the academics we have been reading in class. Helps to introduce subject to reader.

September 18, 2008 7:35 am
Rachel Hillmer on whole page :

Great start to your paper. I think you did an excellent job of getting supporting facts and details from the academics we have neen reading in class to stregthen your arguement.

The only thing I wished you would have done a little more with is to addin your own voice and understanding. I think it’s clear that you fully understand the arguement and know where you stand on the issue of foundationalism vs. anti-foundationalism, however, I think there may be too many direct quote and paraphrasing in the paper. I found myself wanting to know more about what you personally think of what these academics are saying and you were beginning to get into that in paragraph 8. I think I would like to see more of that which wouldn’t be a problem for you because, even with all the direct quotes, there is a voice and strong personal presence. I believe you could do even more with that.

Thia is a a great start though and I hope my comments were helpful.

Rachel Hillmer

September 18, 2008 7:47 am
Steve on whole page :

Your paper is an excellent summary of the authors. You are fair in your presentation and are not biased.

To me you paper starts at the end. That is where your opinion comes in. I want to see that opinion earlier. It would be nice if in the midst of the back and forth you give in your paper that I see your opinion emerge with your arguments.

September 18, 2008 8:35 am
Brianna on whole page :

Matt,

Your central argument is a good one:

“Without knowing how to reproduce academic discourse a student’s voice will never be heard.”

The problem is, it comes too late and has been added as a footnote (I assume you plan on incorporating these footnotes into your paper). I think the first sentence from paragraph five needs to be introduced early on, in the first or second paragraph of this piece.

You have a lot of summary. You might consider breaking that up a bit.

Via the help of footnotes, we understand your position. But to take it a step further, what kind of teaching methods are you advocating?

Good work,

Brianna

September 18, 2008 10:51 am
dra08 on whole page :

test post

September 18, 2008 11:21 am
historymajor255 on paragraph 1:

I think your first paragraph is too long. I think you could make your argument with a few brief explanations and then leave the extended explanations for later in your paper. Also, your first few sentences have some typos which are a little distracting.
~Katie M.

September 18, 2008 11:49 am
historymajor255 on paragraph 4:

I like your textual support and the way you use it to support your writing, however, I think that your overuse quotes and could stand for some paraphrasing. I think your quotes can often be distracting and detract from the paper as a wholevand if you use the writers ideas in conjunction with your own you’ll get a lot further.
~Katie M.

September 18, 2008 11:55 am
historymajor255 on whole page :

Great job,
I think your paper shows how intelligent you are, and it is very impressive. However, I think you may need to dumb down your writing just slightly so that all of us can hear your voice and understand your argument a little better. I think your argument is great and well thought out, but your paper is a little confusing, try reading it over to fix the punctuation, help it to flow, and incorporate your voice more.
~Katie M.

September 18, 2008 11:59 am
Kayla on whole page :

Hey Matt!
This is a very smart paper, but all of the information seems a little compacted. Most of it is a quotation or paraphrase or summary, which makes it a little bit tiring and confusing. One thing that helps me sometimes when quoting people, is to ask my self, “so what?.” So what does this quotation mean to my argument, to me, to what should actually happen in the classroom?
You have an incredible grasp on the texts that we read so use your own voice and opinion and ideas to explore how the ideas in those texts can be applied.
Great job though, thanks for sharing!
:-)
Kayla

September 18, 2008 1:14 pm
Kayla on paragraph 7:

These footnotes help explain your own thoughts a lot better, but rather than having them as footnotes, include them in the body of your paragraphs. Explain all the complications and why you find them important and how you think they should be addressed right in your paper. Use the quotations as a support for these thoughts rather than your thoughts as support for the quotations. :-)

September 18, 2008 1:17 pm
stan4562 on whole page :

Your paper is really well structured and you are a very strong writer. However I feel that you pull a little to much from the readings…by this I mean you are referring to the books and scholars a little to much that to me it over powers your voice. But over all really great job!!!

September 18, 2008 1:40 pm
Caitlin on paragraph 3:

Matt-
There are a few words missing from this first paragraph that make it hard to follow. Also, like you said in class, your essay is very well formatted. You don’t need to be afraid to talk about yourself and how anti-foundationalism/foundationalism fit into your life in your opening paragraph.
Caitlin

September 18, 2008 2:20 pm
Jacqueline Van Hazel on paragraph 1:

it….should be it’s, just one grammar error I noticed. By the way I really like your intro and I too, was interested in the Bizzell readings about foundationalism and anti-foundationalism.

September 18, 2008 2:21 pm
Jacqueline Van Hazel on whole page :

At times I felt like you were trying to rush your paper too much, for the sake of adding in all the comments in the selected readings that you found interesting or that related to your argument. I think you should have jotted down your ideas first and then added the research later. Other than that I liked it, and I loved most of the evidence you provided for your topic.

Sincerely,
Jacqueline

September 18, 2008 2:23 pm
prat9517 on whole page :

This is a great paper, but it is way to overloaded with quotes. It feels like you are trying to shove so much information from other peoples’ arguments that you neglected to add some of your own.

The structure, grammar, etc. is top notch.

Good job.

September 18, 2008 2:38 pm
coloav33 on whole page :

I liked your paper but it seemed almost too jumbled with all the quotes in it. The information was good though. Thanks

September 18, 2008 3:34 pm
nono8 on whole page :

Matt,
You did a nice job of supporting ideas with quotations but at times it seemed like a bit much. I would like to hear more of your voice too. It was very well organized. Thanks for sharing your paper.
~Noel

September 18, 2008 7:02 pm
Kara on whole page :

Matt,
I’m pretty sure you know what I am going to say. I think you need a little bit more of your voice in this essay. Your intelligence is shown in this paper, so do not be afraid to stick your voice out there with the scholars that we have read. You made great points and supported them well. However, instead of rereading what everyone else thought I would have loved to hear more of your thoughts.
Thanks!
-Kara Jay

September 18, 2008 7:05 pm
nono8 on paragraph 1:

You need a hypen for the first time you write “Anti Foundationalism.”

September 18, 2008 7:06 pm
David N. on paragraph 3:

First sentence is slightly weird. I don’t know if it is the wrong tense, word, or word choice but you might want to read it out loud and see i it makes sense to you.

September 18, 2008 9:58 pm
David N. on whole page :

Your paper was fairly sound, but formatting issues were kind of distracting and some sentences were choppy or too technical. If you can clean it up a bit, it would be a pretty good paper.

September 18, 2008 10:01 pm
bballd2123 on whole page :

Hi Matt!
Great work and good use of quotes, but you should maybe try to bring out your own voice a little more. It’s a great start though!
Maria

September 18, 2008 11:12 pm
mbirely on whole page :

Matt,
You have a great framework started for your paper. I like the ideas you have and where you are going with them. I think there is more here for you to explore however. I think where you end it is not truly the end…keep going! You have some great ideas in your last paragraph. Also, add a personal touch. Something to connect the reader, and yourself, to these ideas. What a great start though. You really did tackel Bizzel and her ideas. Thanks for sharing it with us!
-Meagan Birely

September 18, 2008 11:32 pm
Sarah Shinners on whole page :

this is very good, you have a very professional writing style, but it would be better if you would add some more personal insights, too, make it more personal to you, like where do you stand in all this? Still good, though, just watch the grammatical errors.

September 19, 2008 8:00 am
Katie B. on whole page :

Matt-
Your paper shows how smart you are. I think that it is great how you like to say what you want to say and your not afraid of what others think, and your paper is a great example of that. Like we discussed in class…quotes…I dont feel like I need to say more(I’m in the same boat). Also about 10 lines down you have Bizzell not with a captial B…
Other than that great JOB!
Thx,
Katie B.

September 19, 2008 12:33 pm
hein9311 on whole page :

I really enjoyed the entire juxtoposition and your analyzation of Foundationalism and Anti Found. As a journalist and a writer, I find myself caught up in these two styles of writing and I agree completely with your final paragraph about standards and voice.

September 21, 2008 3:44 pm
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